I would rather have the sound off than listen to his pathetic attempts to link words and phrases together rather than comment on the racing (as opposed to being able to identify riders) about which he knows precious little. And within the second group, he sprints hard, coming 13th overall. The most interesting people are the race commissars, and talking with them you get a lot of insight into who they are keeping an eye on. Some pros think so, plus more tech news from Shimano, Zwift, Le Col, Dahon, Fairlight + more, Pick-up truck driver crashes into group of cyclists, leaving two dead and 11 injured. Over 3,200 worth of amazing prizes from Pacenti Cycle Design and Saint Piran, including some stunning carbon wheels! Teams have been announced for May's Tour de Yorkshire and the Asda Tour de Yorkshire Women's Race. Please enter your email so we can keep you updated with news, features and the latest offers. For mine, Carlton is the perfect commentator for the 'early shift' on long, flat grand tour stages. Where is the central body that has its own rules of discipline and rules of engagement that respect distance protocol and passing protocol under the race director? Live blog: "outrageous claims" - Tao Geoghegan Hart lays into Eurosport commentator Carlton Kirby, cyclists blamed for countryside litter - Twitter responds, Colnago e-bike, Jason Kenny, Jeremy Vine on close-passes, TdY teams, Peloton baby + more. But not today in the Vuelta or yesterday, and this is the first time I have heard Kirby commentating. And this sort of meaningless, demented jabber is not at all unusual I could have chosen many examples just from today. Its a whole other much more positive view of commentators as a whole. The very aspect of commentating that requires filling the gaps spanning hours of no action is the reason. Story Time with Carlton Kirby: Mankini's and mechanicals | "The pictures were all over the news. We've asked Colnago for more details but they just shrugged their shoulders in reply. But there are always other lines to cross, and he just loves collecting these plaudits and the deserved success coming his way is just brilliant. To my mind, the motorised vehicles are getting far too close, a point I continue to pick up on commentary. The concern of course is how much is this going to take out of him before he begins preparations for the Olympic Games next month? if many people would do this via twitter it could at least give a sign. Theyre the best stages, and the most exciting ones, but often as a commentator the days you take the most pride in are actually the ones where absolutely sod all has happened! Kirby tells us that Batistella is punching his handlebars in celebration. A football match lasts for hardly ninety minutes, a rugby match is over in eighty minutes, whilst a basketball game takes only thirty-eight minutes to finish. He believes. Win! Whilst im not a great fan of Carlton Kirkby I very much doubt I could talk for between 1 and 5 hours without descending into complete nonsense from time to time. Create a personalized feed and bookmark your favorites. Commentating on cycling is not like snooker or tennis, says Carlton Kirby, a principal commentator for Eurosports cycling coverage, who has worked in the sport since 1996. In the second episode of Story Time with Carlton Kirby, the Eurosport commentator reads an excerpt from his book (Magic Spanner) about how British cycling caused a seismic change in the. Even my partner, who doesn't watch cycling, could tell who had won. It is not just the press core looking for pictures for the following day. You can also sometimes find your hotel is one or two hours away. 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The breaks going to go up the road, theyre going to be allowed anything up to 15 minutes of an advantage and everyone else is just having a chat including us., All the other commentators from all the other nations and all their information are in the same room, so you often get people saying: Have you heard this?, with loads of things to share. You get the mood of the crowd, and of the press. CK:I think not many people will notice. And it is at that point, Cav comes out of the shadows to mug him at the line. Thankfully, no tree roots to overcome. Would like to cancel eurosport but it's the only way to watch the classics (legitimately at least). You can't work commentating on it for as long as he has next to informative ex-pros without some of it getting in through osmosis at the least. Absolutely mad. While folk littering with gel wrappers is no doubt annoying, is it really up there with fly-tipping? Can you imagine Paris-Roubaix with Kirby commentating? We usually have to drive to the finish line, which is where the commentary positions normally are theyre like double-decker coaches all lined up there, Kirby sayd. Personally I think Harmon and Brian Smith are the best team. Hence, talking on something is difficult without matter. Kirby is not uncomfortable with the spurt of social media and the exponential increase of criticism that has gone alongside with it. Commentating during the 2022 Ronde with 222km to go, Kirby says: Aranburu could have finished as high as 5th in Milan-Sanremo, but didnt think it was worth his while so he eased off at the end and came in 13th. Carlton Kirby discusses the art of commentary, says thank you to those who enjoy listening to him. but the bike was nowhere to be found!" So poor . Hence, To be qualified to fill up that huge amount of time is, quite naturally, a daunting job. A lot of these guys seems to have free rein on what they are doing. Among an awful lot of distractions, as Carlton Kirby explains, commentating on cycling is an arduous process. There's also his lack of knowledge. Harmon LOVES cycling, cycling history, and even riders who don't speak English. But Kirby is only interested in his own narrative: McEwen told him twice that Herrada had won, but Kirby kept eulogising about Batistella's 'win', even as Herrada celebrated further coming past the camera. You can sound like youre a genius, with an incredible memory, Kirby says. I tweeted quite a few comments which clearly annoyed him. It is amusing that explaining this is futile, he remarks. And he has outthought Marcel Kittel here. Fully agree Kirby is the most irritable commentator ever. Tony Martin scared everybody with his breakaway, says Etixx chief. No ! I remember being impressed during the Giro at his ability to identify riders. After my tweet he at least toned that down. https://yahoo.uservoice.com/forums/1698 ant-drivel, http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85131. Plus the the week's top tech news, in: Flying Tom Pidcock wins Strade Bianche, in: Cyclists call on council to reconsider unsafe diversion, in: Call for Scottish safety portal that would "deliver justice", in: Campaigners: Remove pedestrian vs cyclist conflict, in: Highway Code changes haven't helped cyclists, Near Miss of the Day 853: Driver of lorry urging cyclists to Please take extra care near this vehicle fined for close pass (includes swearing), Continental unveils the "strongest" and "fastest" ever Grand Prix 5000 tyre models, Brompton boss frustrated to be fighting "war of attrition" against rip-off rivals, Remove conflict between cyclists and pedestrians, urge campaigners in wake of manslaughter case, Have bike tech wars turned cycling into Formula 1? When asked about the criticism, Kirby opined Its not like the written press where you can write something out and finesse it and shave it, I dont have that gift. He kept on saying, Its gone, its irretrievable. All of this stuff adds to the vrit of the broadcast, and its stuff you cannot get in a studio in London. The commentary line-up will include regular voices Rob Hatch and Carlton Kirby, who will also joined by cycling legend Sean Kelly at all three major races. Page 6 - Get up to date with the latest news, scores & standings from the Cycling News Community. During a long interview, the legendary veteran commentator of Eurosports shares some of his knowledge about the job. Proper all rounder. Now it is live pictures going onto blogs, stream TV pictures. -"Looks like shit. Whenever I watch an anglophone stream online because there is no other way for me to watch a race I have to think of the HIMYM episode where Barney goes to get Robin from Canada and, looking at the "funny" Canadian dollars, says: "It's like you want us to make fun of you". Doesn't look that pretty, cable tied, very practical. If you're after one, guess that does makethe two grand plus 40 quid a month price tag seem a little fairer A mother from London has launched a petition calling for a second coroner's inquest into the death of her daughter, who passed away at nine years of age in what was originally believed to be an asthma-related case. I think there seems to be a bad feeling against cyclists and its really strange because theyre only people, he continued. At Eurosport, because the producer maynot necessarily be listening to the Englishcommentary, theyll be occasions when I goto Sean and say, so what do you think of Sagan? and hell start mulling it over and responding and then all of a sudden well get a producing lining up a cue pointin his ear, and hell have to switch from his usual, slow voice to speaking very quickly and wrapping up his point in five seconds for no apparent reason to the viewer. As for the Sky Team Fans member - you wouldnt actually be Mr Kirby would you ???? My Ultimate Commuter, rebuilding her at the moment, everything external. So many other cycling commentators on Eurosport. That should have been alarm bells for everyone. Im a bit annoyed at myself because I lost my temper at the time. For no reason. Thomas De Gendt launched a solo attack from the break with 60 kilometres remaining of todays opening stage of the Volta a Catalunya, covering 163 kilometres and starting and finishing in Calella and the Lotto-Soudal rider now finds himself with a lead of almost three minutes on his rivals. "Commentating on cycling is not like snooker or tennis," Carlton Kirby tells Betway in a recent interview, one of the principal commentators for Eurosport's cycling coverage, who has served in the sport since 1996. Carlton Kirby is one of the successful names in the industry, recently had been a topic of gossip for good and bad reasons. We have Sean Kelly, Stephen Roche, Magnus Backstedt, Dean Downing, Rob Hayles and David Harmon (who although is not the best at least it seems he is really doing some research and background checks on the riders and teams - he is clearly learning from Kelly as they sit in the box)but Kirby doesnt even do any background research. #cycling @carltonkirby whatsonreading.com Carlton Kirby True Tales of the Tour de France | What's On Reading Helen Blackman (@HelenBlackman) March 24, 2019. For me, Carlton is the perfect commentator for the 'early shift' on long, flat grand tour stages. You can use your lens. VN:When youre at the race, who are you talking to regularly to get your intel for the broadcast? You also have picture breakdowns, sometimes audio breakdowns so weve got all that going on and we havent even got on to the racing yet!. 2023 Eurosport, a Warner Bros. He is rubbish Eurosport have many other far better options we need a decent commentator not Carltons partridge esque musings. His voice tends to wake me up from my nap when something happens. ADDITIONAL: 13/4/21 - Some have said that this petition is 'cruel', but if you're in the public eye then you are open to criticism of your professional abilities - or are we now not allowed to criticise the abilities of authors, actors, sports people, musicians, etc.? He has poor knowledge and really just annoys everyone. The races are only on GCN/Eurosport. Tao Geoghegan Hart (@taogeoghegan) March 25, 2019. Uhhh, Ill say Bettiol. It means sometimes were not actually commentating from the finish line because the Tour de France is so huge theres about 8,000 people attached to the Tour. Thus, the commentary that you hear wont come from the finish line, but rather from some television studio thousands of miles away. You don't need to be that close to the riders to get snaps. When youre on-site, even though youre there, youre still watching a monitor, Kirby says. The problem is that social media has allowed anyone and everyone to voice their opinion, regardless of their credibility. I agree listening to the mans over stressed enthusiasm really gets on my nerves. You have engineers popping in and out, you have guests from the different languages, and the only thing separating us from the Germans, on our left, and the French, on our right, are thin sound walls its completely open at the back, he says. Brentford today angry guy in grey car can't see why he should wait till it's safe to overtake hoots horn, shouts abuse and 100 yards later I'm in front again anyway. I could get 20 minutes of commentary out of dinner last night. hatcher - are you Harmon's mum? VN:Whats it like calling a race from back home at the studio? This person has obviously just seen red, Ive got right of way, Im going to go, and you might have right of way technically whether you do or dont is often debatable but it doesnt give you the right to smash someone and potentially kill someone, which is what is going to happen if you run someone off their bike. The headline does anyway, while the sources in the article cover a few different potential causes. I've been told to stop having a go at the motorcycles, but it is purely from a safety aspect and sadly this poor guy, who was very a vibrant talent at the age of only 25, has lost his life. I like Carlton too, not as much as Harmon, granted, but I've given up on him coming back. She got hit by a car and thats someones mum, not just a cyclist. For god's sake grow up the man's just doing his job some of it good, some of it bad Is it my imagination or has there been more talk about commentators than cycling on here recently? If she wins so does everyone else. pic.twitter.com/MaRgbFKTet, The Ella Roberta Family Foundation (@rosamund_ElsFdn) March 25, 2019, @emmachamberlain at her soul cycling class. Log in or register to join the conversation. Ive been up the Galibier. And then on day one on Utah beach..boom..Cavendish stuns the previously unbeatable German racer. And he wasn't wrong. He is thinking of five wins, and is finally allowing himself to believe he is going to reach the all-time record of the Belgian all-rounder Eddy Merckx's record for stage wins of 34. Essentially, there needs to be some sort of schooling or protocol coming from the International Cycling Union that has a proficiency test for these guys. Painting a verbal picture of a five-hour race is stream of consciousness, and to be able to do that effectively, you just need to be there. pic.twitter.com/fFcEf0AgHK, Volta a Catalunya (@VoltaCatalunya) March 25, 2019. Ive now just watched the end of Milan-Sanremo again: Aranburu wasnt in the first group behind Morhoric, so he literally couldnt have come higher than 10th. Eurosport is transmitting the same amount of races as any standard european tv channel - go to Italy where it is their number 2 sport next to football - they dont struggle for professional sports commentators. Cycling is a sport where there are no time limits and there are no constant action-packed sequences to speak about. . 1/9/22 4.2km to go, Stage 12 Vuelta a Espana: the riders are going uphill.Kirby: as they get to this step, but it doesnt last long, its like your mums old step, give it a polish, give it a clean and then a clean pair of heels to everybody else. Theres no doubt about it, the most difficult thing to do is cover nothing, he says. They will tell you, Yes, so-and-so is looking really mentally fatigued, or, they are saying, Hes getting very aggressive in the peloton and weve had a word with the team, that is all great information. If you don't like something, how else can you change it - by saying nothing? Eurosport have a lot of these, so theres a lot of conversation going on in your ear [between producers] and its quite a task trying to keep the flow of what you are saying, Kirby says. Hosted by Duncan Steer. Owned by Warner Bros. 27/8/22: Stage 7 of the Vuelta, Herrada wins the sprint and has his arm in the air in celebration. When youre part of the race caravan, all you talk about is the race. He's fine when it's all action but flounders when it's a longer stage. Carlton Kirby: No matter if youre in a mobile unit at the finish, or in a studio with air conditioning and a coffee machine, youre doing the same thing, the view out the window is just different. As a Post Graduate Broadcast Journalist Carltons Television career began with the BBC as a News and Sports Reporter. Cue points, Kirby adds, are a bigger problem at Eurosport than with other networks, with producers calling for radio silence across the Eurosports various nationalbroadcasts to assist with the editing process. On rest days we circulate to meet with everybody. He suddenly realises how to beat Kittel, working out the formula to finish first. Nonetheless, one other thing that Kirby believes, sets the very best apart is commitment. It's garnering quite a few sarcastic responses on Twitter Yep, I regularly cycle to MacDonalds, get a load of food, then cycle to the off license, get some beer, and then cycle to a lay by or car park and spread it around the place. Went for a bike ride earlier today. He inspires such devotion that he has his own fan club, yet also is on the receiving end of a petition to get him sacked. Youre at the finish line, essentially watching the TV albeit with extra screens.. The sights and sounds of the race and the attention of aptitude in an ample pressroom can renounce some valuable chunks for a commentator. All the news from the site and beyond as we start a new week, Thomas De Gendt bosses Volta a Catalunya opener and solos into 3-minute overall lead. I'm not sure if it was security, medical or a photographer who hit him, but essentially there was braking with four riders on the ground and the bike flipped before landing on the riders. Discovery through its international sports unit, it operates two main channels Eurosport 1 and Eurosport 2 across most of its territories, and streams on Discovery+, which superseded Eurosport Player. This is why he often cracks jokes and laughs heartily. What you are talking about is a place in history. (Clarke is a very good rider, but there is nothing to suggest he SHOULD have won the 2016 M-SR. Watch the race.). Rob Hatch is apparently also good but he doesnt do very much that I've seen. A piece of the petition has gained over 542 signatures demanding the removal of Carlton Kirby from Eurosports, citing Unnecessary Screaming, Terrible Jokes as one of the biggest downsides. At dinner, you gather around the table and argue the hell out of it, and thats a big thing. Bridport cycles. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby presents a weekly guide to everything that's NOT happening in the sport this year, with stories and reflections from his 25 years in the gantry. I am very sorry but he is just nowhere near the standards of messrs. Liggett, Boulting, Miller and Hatch. Riders have lost their ability to race, says LeMond, Nacer Bouhanni handed penalty, fined for shove. There is absolutely no deficit of distractions for a commentator. But saves my life" German governments helmet advert sparks sexism row, - Sir Gary Verity steps down from Welcome to Yorkshire for health reasons after "errors of judgement" with his expenses, -Bristol taxi driver who cut up cyclist and braked in front of him has licence revoked (+ video), -Porn Pedallers to carry on riding despite being stripped of British Cycling affiliation. Nah, Harmon is clued up. Get the latest race news, results, commentary, and tech, delivered to your inbox. He's obsessed with what he thinks is going to happen, preferring baseless speculation to commentating on what is actually happening. So, our information can be slightly second-hand. And, he is right about it. It's their commentators or silence. Thats one of the vagrancies of Eurosport.. With very little data being sent to them, and some pretty bad camerawork they have made a good fist of the event in Spain. He's ruining the sport I love - I avoid many races purely because he's the commentator. Get rid. . That is the way it appears. It was almost featureless and the riders would not engage in it at all. However, a lot of his fans understand this and support him. He is thinking Champs Elysees. Brian Smith is very good and I feel for him having to listen to Kirby's dumbfounding comments. I can't understand why Eurosport need to use him when they gave at least four other knowledgeable commentators, even without Harmon. Seriously. carlton kirby leaves eurosport 2021; carlton kirby leaves eurosport 2021. The road curved, but it was nothing to concern one's self with. 35m is 100ft. "Beware everybody, he is well and truly back!" yelled Carlton Kirby on Eurosport commentary. You also get a guy filming on the one side of a cyclist, who is then blocking the rider from turning at the right angle into a corner because a motorbike is blocking him. But I do allow people to believe Im always on-site. but the bike was nowhere to be found!" Eurosport commentator. There has to be some kind of distance applied and minimal standards of what is needed. All rights reserved. Partly, of course, that's his job - but if you give it out, you have to take it. And then, you hang a look at anyone who is there to find out if theyre going to listen to you. There is no editing process, except between the brain and the larynx. Fantasy Cycling: game [at] road.cc Tel 01225 588855. You only need to listen to him to get that he has no time for Johnny Foreigner. These local mountain bikers tried Athletic Brewing Company's craft beer for the first time, and you'd be surprised by their reactions. The word count for me at the end is almost blurred.. It is just crazy the amount of automotive stuff on the go, whether that is cars or motorcycles, that are getting too close to the riders, too often.
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