Did you test using real system and UEFI64 boot? Have a question about this project? Some known process are as follows: Sign up for a free GitHub account to open an issue and contact its maintainers and the community. @pbatard Correct me if I'm wrong, but even with physical access, the main point of Secure Boot is to allow TPM to validate the running system before releasing stored keys, isn't it? So thanks a ton, @steve6375! Can it boot ok? Thus, being able to check that an installer or boot loader wasn't tampered with is not a "nice bonus" but is something that must be enforced always in a Secure Boot enabled environment, regardless of the type of media you are booting from, because Secure Boot is very much designed to help users ensure that, when they install an OS, and provided that OS has a chain of trust that extends all the way, any alteration of any of the binary code that the OS executes, be it as part of the installation or when the OS is running, will be detected and reported to the user and prevent the altered binary code to run. I made Super UEFIinSecureBoot Disk with that exact purpose: to bypass Secure Boot validation policy. Is there any progress about secure boot support? It says that no bootfile found for uefi. The only thing that changed is that the " No bootfile found for UEFI!" When Secure Boot is enabled, BIOS boot (CSM) should not work at all, since it would completely defeat the purpose of only allowing signed executables to boot. Does the iso boot from a VM as a virtual DVD? 1.0.84 IA32 www.ventoy.net ===> Adding an efi boot file to the directory does not make an iso uefi-bootable. Hi, thanks for your repley boot i have same error after menu to start hdclone he's go back to the menu with a black windows saying he's loading the iso file to mem and that it freez. Boot net installer and install Debian. Thank you both for your replies. its okay. 6. This completely defeats Secure Boot and should not happen, as the only EFI bootloader that should be whitelisted for Secure Boot should be Ventoy itself, and any other EFI bootloader should still be required to pass Secure Boot validation. The easiest thing to do if you don't have a UEFI-bootable Memtest86 ISO is to extract the \EFI\BOOT\BOOTX64.efi file and just copy that to your Ventoy drive. Win10UEFI+GPTWin10UEFIWin7 ", https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_mYChRFanLEdyttDvT-cn6zH0o6KX7Th/view And IMO, anything that attempts to push the idea that, maybe, allowing silent boot of unsigned bootloaders is not that bad, is actually doing a major disservice to users, as it does weaken the security of their system and, if this is really what a user wants, they can and should disable Secure Boot. By the way, since I do want to bring that message home for people who might be tempted to place a bit too much trust in TPMs, disk encryption and Secure Boot, what the NSA would most likely do, if they wanted to access your encrypted disk data on an x86 PC, is issue a secret executive order to Intel or AMD, to design special version of the CPU they need, where the serial can be altered programmatically (so that they can clone the serial from the original CPU in case the TPM checks it) and that includes additional logic and EPROM to detect and store the critical data (such as disk decryption keys) when accessed. What's going on here? Which brings us nicely to what this is all about: Mitigation. Maybe the image does not support X64 UEFI." UEFI64 Bootfile \EFI\Boot\bootx64.efi is present. @MFlisar Hiren's Boot CD was down with UEFI (legacy still has some problem), manjaro-kde-20.0-rc3-200422-linux56.iso BOOT You can reformat it with FAT32/NTFS/UDF/XFS/Ext2/Ext3/Ext4 filesystem, the only request is that Cluster Size must greater than or equal to 2048. 5. extservice la imagen iso,bin, etc debe ser de 64 bits sino no la reconoce Windows 7 32-bit does not support UEFI32 - you must use Win7 64-bit.. You may need to disable Secure Boot in your BIOS settings first (or convert the ISO to a .imgPTN23 file using the MPI Tool Kit). Nevertheless, thanks for the explanation, it cleared up some things for me around the threat model of Secure Boot. MediCAT Time-saving software and hardware expertise that helps 200M users yearly. If you pull the USB drive out immediately after finish copy a big ISO file, most probably the file in the USB will be corrupted. EDIT: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_mYChRFanLEdyttDvT-cn6zH0o6KX7Th/view, https://www.mediafire.com/file/5zui8pq5p0p9zug/Windows10_SuperLite_TeamOS_Edition.iso/file, [issue]: Can't boot Ventoy UEFI Native (Without CSM) on HP ProBook 640g1. @rderooy try to use newest version, I've been trying on a Dell XPS 13 9360 with Ventoy 1.0.34 UEFI running and Memtest86-4.3.7.iso does not work. I used Rufus on a new USB with the same iso image, and when I booted to it with UEFI it booted successfully. 1.0.84 BIOS www.ventoy.net ===> @pbatard Sorry, I should have explained my position clearer - I fully agree that the Secure Boot bypass Ventoy uses is not secure, and I'm not using Ventoy exactly because of it. Best Regards. using the direct ISO download method on MS website. Maybe the image does not support X64 UEFI! preloader-for-ventoy-prerelease-1.0.40.zip, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1401532, [issue]: Instead of dm-patch, consider a more secure and upstreamable solution that does not do kernel taint. Is it possible to make a UEFI bootable arch USB? Optional custom shim protocol registration (not included in this build, creates issues). And they can boot well when secure boot is enabled, because they use bootmgr.efi directly from Windows iso. I tested live GeckoLinux STATIC Plasma 152 (based on openSUSE) with ventoy-1.0.15. If you do not see a massive security problem with that, and especially if you are happy to enrol the current version of Ventoy for Secure Boot, without realizing that it actually defeats the whole point of Secure Boot because it can then be used to bypass Secure Boot altogether, then I will suggest that you spend some time reading into trust chains. Sorry, I meant to upgrade from the older version of Windows 11 to 22H2. # Archlinux minimal Install with btrfs ## Introduction If you don't know about Arch Linux, and willing to learn, then check this post, - [Arch Linux](https://wiki . Can't try again since I upgraded it using another method. This means current is UEFI mode. Turned out archlinux-2021.06.01-x86_64 is not compatible. In this situation, with current Ventoy architecture, nothing will boot (even Fedora ISO), because the validation (and loading) files signed with Shim certificate requires support from the bootloader and every chainloaded .efi file (it uses custom protocol, regular EFI functions can't be used. - . As Ventoy itself is not signed with Microsoft key. las particiones seran gpt, modo bios Do I still need to display a warning message? Sorry for my ignorance. Again, the major problem I see with this fine discussion is that everybody appears to be tiptoeing around the fact that some users have no clue what Secure Boot is intended for (only that, because it says "Secure" they don't want to turn it off), and, rather than trying to educate them about that, we're trying to find ways to keep them "feeling safe" when the choices they might make would leave their system anything but. Which is why you want to have as many of these enabled in parallel when they exist (such as TPM + Secure Boot, i.e. Just found that MEMZ.iso from https://mega.nz/folder/TI8ECBKY#i89YUsA0rCJp9kTClz3VlA works, file: Windows XP.ver.SP3.English This software will repair common computer errors, protect you from file loss, malware, hardware failure and optimize your PC for maximum performance. These WinPE have different user scripts inside the ISO files. Now Rufus has achieved support for secure boot as now NTFS:UEFI Driver is signed for secure boot by Microsoft. Please test and tell your opinion. How did you get it to be listed by Ventoy? You were able to use TPM for disk encryption long before Secure Boot, and rightfully so, since the process of storing and using data encryption keys is completely different from the process of storing and using trust chain keys to validate binary executables (being able to decrypt something is very different from being able to trust something). Currently there is only a Secure boot support option for check. orel-2.12.22-26.12.2019_13.14.livecd.iso - 1.1 GB My guesd is it does not. This seem to be disabled in Ventoy's custom GRUB). Well occasionally send you account related emails. @steve6375 Okay thanks. The error sits 45 cm away from the screen, haha. Sign up for a free GitHub account to open an issue and contact its maintainers and the community. And they can boot well when secure boot is enabled, because they use bootmgr.efi directly from Windows iso. Won't it be annoying? It was working for hours before finally failing with a non-specific error. Does the iso boot from s VM as a virtual DVD? Most likely it was caused by the lack of USB 3.0 driver in the ISO. The only way to make Ventoy boot in secure boot is to enroll the key. There are also third-party tools that can be used to check faulty or fake USB sticks. I can provide an option in ventoy.json for user who want to bypass secure boot. This option is enabled by default since 1.0.76. Let the user access their computer (fat chance they're going to remove the heatsink and thermal paste to see if their CPU was changed, especially if, as far as they are concerned, no change as occurred and both the computer appearance and behaviour are indistinguishable from usual). to your account. to be used in Super GRUB2 Disk. Maybe because of partition type Can't install Windows 7 ISO, no install media found ? Fedora/Ubuntu/xxx). I have absolutely no problem with letting the user choose if they want to run a bootloader that failed Secure Boot validation, and I think this might be the better way to do it indeed. Intel Sunrise Point-LP, Intel Kaby Lake-R, @chromer030 Your favorite, APorteus was done with legacy & UEFI . same here on ThinkPad x13 as for @rderooy to your account, Hello 2. 10 comments andycuong commented on Mar 17, 2021 completed meeuw mentioned this issue on Jul 31, 2021 [issue]: Can't boot Ventoy UEFI Native (Without CSM) on HP ProBook 640g1 #1031 I'm not sure whether Ventoy should try to boot Linux kernel without any verification in this case (. As with pretty much any other security solution, the point of Secure Boot is mitigation ("If you have enabled Secure Boot then it means you want to be notified about bootloaders that do not match the signatures you allow") and right now, Ventoy results in a complete bypass of this mitigation, which is why I raised this matter. Keep reading to find out how to do this. https://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?t=4997. It should be specially noted that, no matter USB drive or local disk, all the data will be lost after install Ventoy, please be very careful. This ISO file doesn't change the secure boot policy. I adsime that file-roller is not preserving boot parameters, use another iso creation tool. mishab_mizzunet 1 yr. ago @ventoy used Super UEFIinSecureBoot Disk files to disable UEFI file policy, that's the easiest way, but not a 'proper' one. Windows 11 21h2 x64 Hebrew - Successfully tested on UFEI. You can't just convert things to an ISO and expect them to be bootable! Yes, I finally managed to get UEFI:NTFS Secure Boot signed 2 days ago, and that's part of why there's a new release of Rufus today, that includes the signed version of UEFI:NTFS. Especially, UEFI:NTFS is not a SHIM, and I don't maintain a set of signatures that I allow binaries signed with through. If I wasn't aware that Ventoy uses SUISBD, I would be confused just as you by its Secure Boot "support" and lack of information about its consequences. You can have BIOS with TPM and disk encryption and, provided your hardware manufacturer implements anti tampering protection to ensure that the TPM is not sharing data it shouldn't share with parts of the system that should not be trusted, it should be no less secure than TPM-based encryption on a Secure Boot enabled system. However, because no additional validation is performed after that, this leaves system wild open to malicious ISOs. Nierewa Junior Member. Some bioses have a bug. *far hugh* -> Covid-19 *bg*. After installation, simply click the Start Scan button and then press on Repair All. @DocAciD I don't have a Lenovo, ThinkPad or a ThinkCentre, Getting the same on TinyCoreLiInux (CorePlus), URL; http://tinycorelinux.net/downloads.html, The ISO must be UEFI-bootable and have a UEFI64 boot file \EFI\BOOT\BOOTX64.EFI I suspect that, even as we are not there yet, this is something that we're eventually going to see (but most likely as a choice for the user to install the fully secured or partially secured version of the OS), culminating in OSes where every single binary that runs needs to be signed, and for the certificates those binaries are signed with to be in the chain of trust of OS. The file formats that Ventoy supports include ISO, WIM, IMG, VHD(x), EFI files. DSAService.exe (Intel Driver & Support Assistant). Windows 10 32bit only support IA32 efi, your machine may be x86_64 uefi (amd64 uefi), so this distro can't boot and will show this message. the main point of Secure Boot is to allow TPM to validate the running system before releasing stored keys, isn't it? There are many kinds of WinPE. screenshots if possible If someone has physical access to a system then Secure Boot is useless period. The text was updated successfully, but these errors were encountered: tails-amd64-4.5.iso Legacy tested with VM From the booted OS, they are then free to do whatever they want to the system. https://abf.openmandriva.org/platforms/cooker/products/4/product_build_lists/3250 In WIMBOOT mode (ctrl+w) I get 'Loading files. xx%' and then screen resolution changes and get nice Windows Setup GUI. But, considering that I've been trying for the last 5 years to rally people against Microsoft's "no GPLv3 policy" without going anywhere, and that this is what ultimately forced me to rewrite/relicense UEFI:NTFS, I'm not optimistic about it. The text was updated successfully, but these errors were encountered: Please give the exact iso file name. Adding an efi boot file to the directory does not make an iso uefi-bootable. In other words, that there might exist other software that might be used to force the door open is irrelevant. I made a VHD of an arch installation and installed the vtoyboot mod and it keeps on giving me the no UEFI error. The same applies to OS/2, eComStation etc. Now there's no need to format the disk again and again or to extract anything-- with Ventoy simply copy the ISO file to the USB drive and boot it. VentoyU allows users to update and install ISO files on the USB drive. If the ISO is on the tested list, then clearly it is a problem with your particular equipment, so you need to give the details. 1.0.84 UEFI www.ventoy.net ===> But of course, it's your choice to pick what you think is best for your users and the above is just one opinion on the matter. sol-11_3-live-x86.iso | 1.22 GB, gnewsense-live-4.0-amd64-gnome.iso | 1.10 GB, hyperbola-milky-way-v0.3.1-dual.iso | 680 MB, kibojoe-17.09final-stable-x86_64-code21217.iso | 950 MB, uruk-gnu-linux-3.0-2020-6-alpha-1.iso | 1.35 GB, Redcore.Linux.Hardened.2004.KDE.amd64.iso | 3.5 GB, Drauger_OS-7.5.1-beta2-AMD64.iso | 1.8 GB, MagpieOS-Gnome-2.4-Eva-2018.10.01-x86_64.iso | 2.3 GB, kaisenlinuxrolling1.0-amd64.iso | 2.80 GB, chakra-2019.09.26-a022cb57-x86_64.iso | 2.7 GB, Regata_OS_19.1_en-US.x86_64-19.1.50.iso | 2.4 GB. This could be due to corrupt files or their PC being unable to support secure boot. Let us know in the comments which solution worked for you. The user should be notified when booting an unsigned efi file. relativo a la imagen iso a utilizar Will these functions in Ventoy be disabled if Secure Boot is detected? They can't eliminate them totally, but they can provide an additional level of protection. Ventoy doesn't load the kernel directly inside the ISO file(e.g.
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